Wednesday, October 17

Kierkegaard Quote

A number of blogs have been quoting Kierkegaard lately, which gives me a great excuse to do so once more. This is taken from Concluding Unscientific Postscript, and it is part of a passage in the book that I consider the best of Kierkegaard. Indeed, perhaps the best of prose:

"If one who lives in the midst of Christendom goes up to the house of God, the house of the true God, with the true conception of God in his knowledge, and prays, but prays in a false spirit; and one who lives in an idolatrous community prays with the entire passion of the infinite, although his eyes rest upon the image of an idol: where is the most truth? The one prays in truth to God though he worships an idol; the other prays falsely to the true God, and hence in fact worships an idol."

What can you say about a writer that continues to amaze? This is related to one of his fundamental ideas that religious truth is subjectivity, and quite probably an idea i'll do my best to explore in the near future.

44 Comments:

Blogger Simon said...

Timothy,

The quote reminds me of this prayer by Thomas Merton, that I thought you might like to read:

"My Lord God,
I have no idea where I am going.
I do not see the road ahead of me.
I cannot know for certain where it will end.
Nor do I really know myself,
and the fact that I think that I am following your will
does not mean that I am actually doing so.
But I believe that the desire to please you
does in fact please you.
And I hope I have that desire in all that I am doing.
I hope that I will never do anything apart from that desire.
And I know that if I do this,
you will lead me on the right road
though I may know nothing about it.
Therefore will I trust you always
though I may seem lost and in the shadow of death.
I will not fear,
for you are ever with me
and you will never leave me to face my perils alone."

6:07 AM  
Blogger Timothy said...

A refreshingly honest and beautiful prayer, thanks simon.

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Blogger the_burning_bush said...

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Blogger the_burning_bush said...

A powerful (and alarming) passage. Kierkegaard has his unique way of holding every individual's feet to the fire.

Sometimes I wonder about the pagans who have never heard about Jesus, and I ask myself, "Can they find life?" To which Christ answers, "Everyone who asks receives, everyone who seeks finds, and for everyone who knocks the door is opened for him."

Certainly the name of Jesus is important, and those who peddle alternatives are liars. There is no other name under heaven given to men by which they may call upon to be saved. But there are many who take up His name who do not truly find Jesus.

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Blogger Timothy said...

Hi Burning Bush,

It's something i've thought alot about as well. While Jesus did say that people who have not heard his message have a cloak for their sin, he also talked about he himself as the single only way to God.

I certainly agree that many who use his name are not actually following Jesus, and I think i'd also argue that there are many who don't use his name and yet seem to do much a better job at following the teachings and ideals of Christ far better than I ever could.

It's a tough issue, as I personally do not like the idea of pluralism and the slippery slope it can become. But I just think of Jesus's parable of the sheep and goats, where the people who were accepted into heaven were shocked because they didn't know they had done anything for God. Also the parable of the good samaritan, where it took a non-jew (who had similarly never heard of Jesus) to do the Godly thing in a situation. And also quotes like this from Kierkegaard, that to me just make perfect sense.

It's hard to write a conclusion to all of that, but I think it is clear that the exclusive Christianity that is often paraded today is not scriptual.

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Blogger the_burning_bush said...

Hi Timothy,

I've spent a lot of time thinking about that passage today ... I think there are a lot of issues that simply need an ironic individual to answer (like Christ) or special revelation. Like you said, it IS hard to write conclusively on the matter (that is to say, once and for all) but I think it is possible (as Dostoyevski said) to be certain about how it is between oneself and God.

And I don't think that the love of God needs to be defended.

Exclusivity is fine with me as Jesus made a lot of exclusive statements. What I don't like are surfacey checklists we make to exclude the least (i.e. those who Christ identified with).

Anyway, I liked the post a lot. Still trying to understand somethings, I guess ...

1:06 PM  
Blogger Timothy said...

Burning Bush:

Yeah you're right, Jesus made alot of exclusive statements. I didn't communicate it very well, but I was talking about how people traditionally consider Christianity exclusive. In the sense of beliefs, and the surfacey checklists you were talking about.

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Blogger Thom said...

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2:07 AM  
Blogger Thom said...

It's fascinating how Kierkegaard's writings still burn with such passion, so many years since he has died. I'm often moved by his writings by the intensity of his passion alone; it's almost as if he's right there in front of me!

Anyway here's the book that introduce me to SK's Christian works. Thought you might be interested.

http://www.plough.com/ebooks/Provocations.html

2:09 AM  
Blogger Kwinnky said...

I want to thank you for making a blog for an unfortunately overlooked religious philosophy. I hope to read much more from you in the future.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am quite certain that my church, if they knew what went on in my soul, would throw me out as a no-hoper. Mr Kierkegaarde too would write me off after the briefest of interviews. To my fellow countrymen and even some of my friends I am a deviant misfit - albeit probably not a danger to others. What can be done but to throw oneself upon the mercy of God and live one day at a time?

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